Infrastructure

2009-12-08T18:42:42Z

Cmd3187: Cleaned up Power and Environmental subsections. Questions moved to the talk page.

''' NOTE''': This page contains information with regard to network/server setup for the final space, not the temporary one. For the temp space, power distribution can be done with extension cords, while network access will be ad-hoc in nature.

{|
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! Sub-group !! Lead
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| Power ||
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| Environment ||
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| Security || [[User:Antitree|Mark Manning]]
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| Network || [[User:Ben Woodruff|Ben Woodruff]]
|-
|}

=Power=
Overhead cord reels are a solution, but they must not remain plugged in at their source when not in use in order to comply with fire code. Cable trays are not a good solution for power. (They are a pain in the ass.)

=Environmental=
The space will need to have environmental controls in the event that servers will be kept in location. The general operating temperature of servers and network equipment should be around 75F. In order to ensure this, the purchase of an AC system will be necessary.

'''Things we may need to acquire:'''
*<s>Heater</s> <-- Heat is included
*Air Conditioner
*Dehumidifier
*<s>Thermostat/Thermometer</s> <-- Usually bundled with AC

=Network=
* Three distinct segregated networks
* Separate colors of wires so we can tell at a glance which network we're plugging into (we can get colored keystone jacks, too)
** Production = Green
** Warzone = Red
** Playground = Yellow
* Each network should also have a VERY different IP scheme
** Hey, there happen to be 3 private IP blocks in RFC 1918... 10.* 172.16-31.* and 192.168.*
* Should be Cat 6 wired access, with drops throughout the space, no less than 6 feet apart (Similar to NEC 210.52)
** We want to limit the number of switches / hubs that are used beyond the core equipment, so it's better to be overkill here

{|
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! Network/Mask !! Name !! Description
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| '''172.20.0.0/16''' || '''Production''' || '''Supernet slice for all production networks'''
|-
| 172.20.0.0/24 || Core || Core Equipment (routers, switches, etc)
|-
| 172.20.10.0/24 || Servers || Servers (LDAP, DHCP, DNS, etc - assuming not provided by router)
|-
| 172.20.20.0/24 || Wired Hosts || Shared workstations
|-
| 172.20.30.0/24 || Wireless Hosts || Registered Member laptops
|-
| 172.20.50.0/24 || Wireless Guests || Event Participants, Class registrants, etc - May be partitioned into a separate network, see below
|-
| '''172.25.0.0/16''' || '''Playground''' || '''Network specific for individual projects. Should be sliced further to /24 and /26 networks as needed'''
|-
| '''172.30.0.0/16''' || '''Warzone''' || '''A place where invasive network attacks can occur. Will be a stub network'''
|}

== Internet ==
* Time Warner Cable (not twtelcom)
** "Teleworker" Package: 10/1.5 $89.95 with a static IP
** "Home Business" Package: 15/2 $109.95 with a static IP [https://www.twcbc.com/Rochester/Products/ProductDetails/home-business-solutions.ashx]
** --[[User:Antitree|Antitree]] 19:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC) Talking to John day about NFP discounts and possible packages for our building zone
** Most of these packages are only available in residential neighborhoods, oddly enough
* [http://www.fibertech.com/ Fibertech]: dedicated fiber circuit, instead of DOCSIS. I've submitted a request for a quote / more info... will update as I know more. --[[User:Fvox13|Fvox13]] 02:30, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
** My contact at Fibertech has been out of the office for the past couple of days. He will have a quote for us tomorrow. This would be through their [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Ethernet Metro Ethernet] network. Sounds competitively priced... I think we should definitely hold off on the Internet decision until their quote comes through. --[[User:Fvox13|Fvox13]] 16:09, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
* [http://www.cogentco.com/us/ Cogent]: They don't appear to offer service in Rochester, but their fiber line goes through Rochester (on the way to Buffalo and Albany), and they offer "[http://www.cogentco.com/us/pns_dedicated.php?Off off net]" service by way of subcontracted T3 / sonet lines. --[[User:Fvox13|Fvox13]] 18:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
** Cogent is going to try and get a quote to me by Tuesday afternoon. Quote will cover 10 / 20 and 50 meg lines. --[[User:Fvox13|Fvox13]] 18:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

==Production==
* Change management - agreement of whatever group is going to be responsible for maintenance before making major changes
* Access to core equipment limited to small group of network managers
* No probing / pen testing
* Reliable node-to-node and internet connectivity
* Robust internally hosted network services (DHCP, DNS, SFTP, Images (RIS, Ghost), LDAP)
** Central LDAP host that contains authentication information for all members and is linked up with Google Apps
** Possibly a web server to host the wiki, website, etc
** Possibly light-weight co-lo boxes (offsite backup, etc) not intended to host production / high bandwidth websites (we will likely only have 1 external IP...)
* AirPort Express wireless AP (connected to stereo system for streaming music via AirTunes?)
** Production network should have a more robust AP... maybe a Meru or Cisco?
*** I agree, the problem is cost. I didn't see any mentions of a better AP on the donations page, so we may be stuck with what I've got for the time being. We will also probably want to offer guest wireless access at some point, through a different SSID, which will require an additional/different AP (the new Apple equipment can do it, but this one can't)
** I have a [http://www.vandis.com/docs/meru-ap100-ds.pdf Meru AP100] that I will be donating --[[User:Fvox13|Fvox13]] 18:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
** Can also act as a USB print server if we have a printer donated (USB is not the best option... we should consider an ethernet-enabled printer (maybe someone can donate?))
** Authentication through RADIUS + LDAP?
* No unauthorized devices (APs, infected boxes, traffic sniffing tools, etc)
** Device registration system, like RIT's start.rit.edu ?
* We have the ability to provide VPN access to this network. We will have to decide as a group if this is desirable and if it will be open to everyone or just the network management group

==Warzone==
* 172.30.x.y
* No expectation of reliability
* Relatively open access to equipment / no change management
* No expectation of structure, very dynamic depending on project use etc, may use different IP address schemes if it doesn't connect to the other two networks in any way
* Expect to have equipment probed / pen tested
* No internet connectivity? Expect machines to be exploited / infected?
* "Rogue" access points allowed (maybe include DHCP message that states you'd better be sure you want to connect to this network - want to be friendly with our neighbors)

==Playground==
* 172.25.x.y
** Each project should claim an address space (ie 172.25.15.y) so we can tell what traffic is coming from which projects
* Temporary, dynamic, but more static and stable than the warzone
* Change management much more loose than production network but there should be some expectation of reliability so please at least check with someone unless you're very sure of what you're doing
* Access to the internet
* Area to play with an test new technologies (for example, play with VOIP/SIP)

=Physical Security=
* We need to be able to "deactivate" keys, for non-payment etc
* Multi-factor authentication (ie, fob + PIN)
* Biometric stuff is really cool. Can we afford? [http://recognitionsystems.schlage.com/ Schlage Biometric systems]
* Audit logging (twitter, website, dot matrix paper trail, etc)

=Audio-Visual System=

'''Audio'''
*[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/541197-REG/Bogen_Communications_S810T725PG8W_Ceiling_Speaker_Assembly_with.html Public Address] system array across the ceiling
*Two speakers rigged to the top corners of the room
*Surround sound rigged to the top of the room
*Inputs to an audio mixer/home receiver
*Sources: Microphone, CD/DVD, computers

'''Video'''
*Ceiling mounted projection
*Screen
*Sources: DVD, computers

2009-11-18T02:13:15Z

Cmd3187: Added basic minutes for 11-17-09 meeting

= Meeting Stream =
* As of 11/17/09 the meetings will now be streamed live, so that if you can't attend physically, you can at least catch up with whats going on in the group - [http://www.ustream.tv/channel/rochester-hackerspace-meetings UStream.tv - Rochester Hackerspace]
** You'll need to login in order to chat. Integrates with facebook connect for auth.

= Locations =
* Spot Coffee - $25, $50, $75 to reserve a room. Talk to Hannah or Jessica
* Barnes and Noble RIT - free with a reservation. Must email am614@bncollege.com to get details.
* Computer Science House

= Suggestions for future meetings =
* group soldering workshop
* geek show and tell
* meet in a bar or meet after in a bar

= Minutes =
== November 17, 2009 ==
* 1st meeting streamed online (ustream)
* Decided on interlock as a group name.
** .net, .com and .org domains have been acquired
* Discussion about three potential locations
** Griffith Ave
*** 3000/$1500 a month
*** No security deposit
*** Utilities = $200 a month
*** A bit too pricey
** E Main St
*** 1000/$450
*** 2000/$725
*** Utilities = $150 a month
** Village Gate
*** 500/$325
*** Utilities = $60 a month
* Talking about the budget
** Would prefer it to be about $35, but it will probably be higher at first until we get more members
** Looking at 501.c3
** Contacts in Buffalo chapter could be useful with this business setup
** Dues
*** $50 - Normal
*** $35 - Student
* Trip to Buffalo Chapter
** Visit to see what they have there
** After thanksgiving, on the weekend
*** Important for sponsorships

==November 11, 2009==
*Location: Spot Coffee
*Attended:
**Mark, Brian B., PT, Sneha, Dan, Carl, Andre, Bryan, Josh, Ashley, Alan, Carmen
*Discussed:
**Summary of goals thus far, for new attendees.
**Updates from members about spaces scouted, etc.
***Sneha: 1000 square feet, 600 a month, Portland Ave., with storefront
***Look into spaces near the Public Market? High rent for RR55 ($900)
****Other spaces besides the refurbed railroad area? Space above cheese shop area?
**Introductions
**Show and Tell
***Bryan
****guitar hacks
*****tuning geegaws
*****patents
***Andre
****[http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MSBM brain machine kit]
****circuit bent toy horn
***Mark
****lockpicking sets
****garmin gps units, wardriving discussion
*****obligatory [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/ Wargames] shoutout
****defcon badges
****bump key discussion
***Brian B.
****bookbinding
****sketchbooks
****[http://www.ponoko.com/ Ponoko] business cards
****[http://www.ponoko.com/ Makerbot] contact: sample print will be mailed out this weekend, hackerspace discount is available
****laser cutting, found [http://www.classact.net/ Class Act Engraving] in Akron, NY. Epilog laser reseller
***Carmen
****suitcase computer
**Random discussion
***Kegerator w/ Nagios monitoring

*Actions
**None specified

== November 6, 2009 ==
* Location: Spot Coffee
* Attended:
** Mark, Carmen, Sneha, Ben, Brian B, Stephen, Bryan S, Andrei, Tom, Josh, David, Karl
* Discussed:
** announcements from last week - flyers, wiki
** attendees' backgrounds and vision for the space
** rough plan of action re: naming, incorporation, non-profit filing
** future meeting ideas, including demos and presentations
** (EDIT)
* Actions:
** contribute to the wiki
** think of names
** (EDIT)

== October 28, 2009 ==
* Location: Spot Coffee
* Attended: Mark, Jeff, Carmen, Brian, Alan, Eric, Joe, Andrei, Bryan, Greg,
* Discussed:
** ideas
** made flyers
** other spaces
** meet and greet
* Actions:
** Mark: setup a wiki
** Mark: print out flyers

== October 21, 2009 ==
* Location: Spot Coffee
* Attended:
** Jerel, Matt, Mark, Jeff, Greg, Jimmi, Krystina
* Discussed:
** meet and greet
** buffalo hackerspace
* Actions:

Meetings

2009-11-16T21:23:55Z

Cmd3187: Added stream url

Website

2009-11-15T23:54:40Z

Cmd3187: Added a section for potential frameworks we could use for CMSs or other pre-baked fun

We'll need a website that will serve as a PR hub, and we can also have cool member features, like web space and shells. Here are some initial thoughts:

* Calendar
* Member profiles, skills/interests
* Ongoing projects
* Message board, mailing list archives
* Photo gallery (or link to flickr group)
* Twitter (retweets member tweets, #roc-hack hashtags etc.
* Link to youtube, embedded youtubes
* Member blogs
* Anything else?

Meetup, as good of a recruitment tool as it is, costs a fair amount of money to maintain, and isn't very featureful.

I'm a bit of a web nut but I suck at design, so I'd love to work with someone on getting this going who knows anything about design. (wooby)

I'd like to work on the server setup if we are going to self-host it (once we get a space). I also wouldn't mind working a bit on the site itself. --[[User:Ben Woodruff|-- BW]] 18:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

== Wed Idea ==

I had a concept i had for the Rochester Hackerspace that I would like to share.

*It would be good to have a website that is project based, that encourages collaboration
*The idea is each member will have a project page dedicated to them.
**If you click on a members name you would be able to see all projects that the person has lead, all projects that the person had collaborated on and also projects that the person wants to do but simply doesn't have time for.
**People looking at the site could browse/search by project.
***Each project should give you basic info about how the progress made on the project, the person who is leading the project as well as people collaborating on the project.
***People should be able to find projects that are still in the idea phase, and if the idea inspires them then they should be able to work on it.
**Each project should have a message board where members can share ideas and give input on each project. This would help keep all Hackers aware of all projects in progress.

== Possible Web Frameworks ==
* [http://elgg.org/ Elgg]
* [http://crabgrass.riseup.net/ Crabgrass]
* [http://www.bevolunteer.org/trac BW-Rox]
* [http://www.mindtouch.com/ MindTouch]
* [http://drupal.org/ Drupal]
* [http://www.joomla.org/ Joomla]

We can probably also just look at pairing together various systems, with a custom frontend, so we have something that works well for us specifically

Space One

2009-11-13T20:49:17Z

Cmd3187: /* 320 Griffith St */ Added Images

Page to discuss finding a space

Google map with possible locations.

[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=110377697787563485490.00046e2179f9d5d2ecf5c&ll=43.145086,-77.588196&spn=0.11598,0.220757&z=12 Hackerspace on Googlemap]

=== Portlant Ave ===
*[http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/1450491591.html Retail space on Portland Ave] I will try and go to this place during the weekend. I will take pictures for show and tell.
*There are a few spots available in Jeff Plaza in henrietta. I am going to meet the guy at 10:00am on Sunday.

=== Macguire Properties: ===
* 1115 East Main St. Rochester, NY
* http://www.maguirepropertiesinc.com
* + Cheap
* + Awesome scene (artists, skaters, bands)
* + Fun industrial playground
* + Not populated
* - borders the ghetto
* - not aesthetically pleasing
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1115+main+st+rochester,ny&sll=43.159334,-77.585041&sspn=0.000967,0.001725&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1115+Main+St+E,+Rochester,+Monroe,+New+York+14609&ll=43.162039,-77.583483&spn=0.000959,0.001725&z=19&layer=c&cbll=43.162039,-77.583331&panoid=V5WKQLf2XM81GpNah2dqiw&cbp=12,168.25,,0,4.86 map]

=== Village Gate ===
* 274 North Goodman St. Rochester, NY
* susie@sternproperties.com
* Warehouse - $3.25/sqft x 1029
* Office - 629sqft $425
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=village+gate+rochester+,ny&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.122306,56.513672&ie=UTF8&hq=village+gate&hnear=Rochester,+NY&ll=43.159255,-77.585082&spn=0,359.998275&z=19&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=43.159334,-77.585041&panoid=V36AUrue5rB43P0CWWhj2A&cbp=12,138.32,,0,0.94 map]

=== Anderson Ave ===
* (approx) 140 Anderson Ave, Rochester, NY
* + very cheap
* +- across from strip club
* http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/1247443458.html
* http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/1247491344.htm
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=128+anderson+ave.+rochester,ny&sll=43.164247,-77.613546&sspn=0.007732,0.013797&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=128+Anderson+Ave,+Rochester,+Monroe,+New+York+14607&ll=43.157422,-77.581737&spn=0.00767,0.013797&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=43.157419,-77.581635&panoid=tMjc0qI0tGKoKLjIM_FkAQ&cbp=12,4.74,,0,11.72 map]

=== St. Paul Office Space ===
* (approx)422 St. Paul St. Rochester, NY
* + 4th floor has indoor skate park
* + illegal after hours bar
* + electricity included
* + build to suit
* + "interesting" scene
* - debatably safe
* + extremely cheap ($187 for 400sq ft)
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=422+st+paul+st.+rochester,ny&sll=43.14965,-77.56426&sspn=0.000959,0.001725&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=422+St+Paul+St,+Rochester,+Monroe,+New+York+14605&z=16&layer=c&cbll=43.164247,-77.613546&panoid=_BkPMhh3JxP9DCqjR2xAKg&cbp=12,42.51,,0,-10.68 map]

=== Blossom Offices ===
* 2 Blossom St. Rochester, NY
* + safe area
* + lots of parking
* + cheap (unconfirmed)
* http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/1257351310.html
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?geocode=CXhKQuXzbFSTFVhpkgIdo3Rg-ymdnouDf7XWiTHB89GeHXMyVg&q=office&f=l&sll=43.149761,-77.564603&sspn=0.000959,0.001725&ie=UTF8&radius=0.04&rq=1&ev=zi&hq=office&hnear=&ll=43.149671,-77.564472&spn=0,359.998275&z=19&layer=c&cbll=43.149645,-77.56426&panoid=vs1e-Ik9dpMuidJqWSw_rQ&cbp=12,333.54,,0,7.52 map]

=== 320 Griffith St ===
* 320 Griffith St. Rochester, NY
** [http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.gentoo:en-US:official&hs=uq2&resnum=0&q=320%20Griffith%20Ave&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl Google map location ]
* 3000 sq ft
* $1500 a month
* $200 - 300 utilities
* split level setup, so 2.5ish floors
* shag + high work carpeting. May be able to drop
* office rooms for meeting
* includes basement w/ kitchenette
* Large parking area
* at current value, about $100 per member per month if assuming 18 active members

<gallery>
File:320_griffith_st_entrance.JPG|Main Entrance
File:320_griffith_st_conf_room.JPG|Conference Room
File:320_griffith_st_conf_room2.JPG|Conference Room
File:320_griffith_st_main_room.JPG|Main Room/Floor
File:320_griffith_st_main_room2.JPG|Main Room/Floor
File:320_griffith_st_main_room3.JPG|Main Room/Floor
File:320_griffith_st_main_room4.JPG|Main Room/Floor
File:320_griffith_st_cuatro_de_bano.JPG|Bathroom
File:320_griffith_st_office_room.JPG|Office/Computer Room
File:320_griffith_st_upper_room.JPG|Upper Room
File:320_griffith_st_upper_room2.JPG|Upper Room
</gallery>

= General Ideas =
* barns near West Henrietta Rd. and Scottsville
* mobile hacker bus - take a care or bus and bring the hackerspace to you
* building made out of shipping containers (EDIT)
* [http://rocwiki.org/55_Railroad_Street Railroad55]
* warehouses

File:320 griffith st upper room2.JPG

2009-11-13T20:35:01Z

Cmd3187: medium size upper room, maybe a computer/server room

medium size upper room, maybe a computer/server room

File:320 griffith st upper room.JPG

2009-11-13T20:33:36Z

Cmd3187: medium size upper room. above the basement

medium size upper room. above the basement

File:320 griffith st office room.JPG

2009-11-13T20:32:13Z

Cmd3187: Small room for breakout or administrative things. Maybe a large computer/server room?

Small room for breakout or administrative things. Maybe a large computer/server room?

File:320 griffith st main room4.JPG

2009-11-13T20:29:44Z

Cmd3187: Main floor of the location, about 1/3 of the space right there.

Main floor of the location, about 1/3 of the space right there.

File:320 griffith st main room3.JPG

2009-11-13T20:28:50Z

Cmd3187: Main floor of the location, about 1/3 of the space right there.

Main floor of the location, about 1/3 of the space right there.

File:320 griffith st main room2.JPG

2009-11-13T20:28:10Z

Cmd3187: Main floor of the location, about 1/3 of the space right there.

Main floor of the location, about 1/3 of the space right there.

File:320 griffith st main room.JPG

2009-11-13T20:26:39Z

Cmd3187: Main floor of the location, about 1/3 of the space right there.

Main floor of the location, about 1/3 of the space right there.

File:320 griffith st entrance.JPG

2009-11-13T20:24:08Z

Cmd3187: Main entrance into the location

Main entrance into the location

File:320 griffith st cuatro de bano.JPG

2009-11-13T20:22:48Z

Cmd3187: Bathroom

Bathroom

File:320 griffith st conf room2.JPG

2009-11-13T20:21:31Z

Cmd3187: An image of what could be a conference room for meetings, or breakout sessions

An image of what could be a conference room for meetings, or breakout sessions

File:320 griffith st conf room.JPG

2009-11-13T20:20:50Z

Cmd3187: An image of what could be a conference room for meetings, or breakout sessions

An image of what could be a conference room for meetings, or breakout sessions

Space One

2009-11-13T20:14:19Z

Cmd3187: Added information about Grittith St Location

Page to discuss finding a space

Google map with possible locations.

[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=110377697787563485490.00046e2179f9d5d2ecf5c&ll=43.145086,-77.588196&spn=0.11598,0.220757&z=12 Hackerspace on Googlemap]

=== Portlant Ave ===
*[http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/1450491591.html Retail space on Portland Ave] I will try and go to this place during the weekend. I will take pictures for show and tell.
*There are a few spots available in Jeff Plaza in henrietta. I am going to meet the guy at 10:00am on Sunday.

=== Macguire Properties: ===
* 1115 East Main St. Rochester, NY
* http://www.maguirepropertiesinc.com
* + Cheap
* + Awesome scene (artists, skaters, bands)
* + Fun industrial playground
* + Not populated
* - borders the ghetto
* - not aesthetically pleasing
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1115+main+st+rochester,ny&sll=43.159334,-77.585041&sspn=0.000967,0.001725&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1115+Main+St+E,+Rochester,+Monroe,+New+York+14609&ll=43.162039,-77.583483&spn=0.000959,0.001725&z=19&layer=c&cbll=43.162039,-77.583331&panoid=V5WKQLf2XM81GpNah2dqiw&cbp=12,168.25,,0,4.86 map]

=== Village Gate ===
* 274 North Goodman St. Rochester, NY
* susie@sternproperties.com
* Warehouse - $3.25/sqft x 1029
* Office - 629sqft $425
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=village+gate+rochester+,ny&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.122306,56.513672&ie=UTF8&hq=village+gate&hnear=Rochester,+NY&ll=43.159255,-77.585082&spn=0,359.998275&z=19&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=43.159334,-77.585041&panoid=V36AUrue5rB43P0CWWhj2A&cbp=12,138.32,,0,0.94 map]

=== Anderson Ave ===
* (approx) 140 Anderson Ave, Rochester, NY
* + very cheap
* +- across from strip club
* http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/1247443458.html
* http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/1247491344.htm
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=128+anderson+ave.+rochester,ny&sll=43.164247,-77.613546&sspn=0.007732,0.013797&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=128+Anderson+Ave,+Rochester,+Monroe,+New+York+14607&ll=43.157422,-77.581737&spn=0.00767,0.013797&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=43.157419,-77.581635&panoid=tMjc0qI0tGKoKLjIM_FkAQ&cbp=12,4.74,,0,11.72 map]

=== St. Paul Office Space ===
* (approx)422 St. Paul St. Rochester, NY
* + 4th floor has indoor skate park
* + illegal after hours bar
* + electricity included
* + build to suit
* + "interesting" scene
* - debatably safe
* + extremely cheap ($187 for 400sq ft)
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=422+st+paul+st.+rochester,ny&sll=43.14965,-77.56426&sspn=0.000959,0.001725&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=422+St+Paul+St,+Rochester,+Monroe,+New+York+14605&z=16&layer=c&cbll=43.164247,-77.613546&panoid=_BkPMhh3JxP9DCqjR2xAKg&cbp=12,42.51,,0,-10.68 map]

=== Blossom Offices ===
* 2 Blossom St. Rochester, NY
* + safe area
* + lots of parking
* + cheap (unconfirmed)
* http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/1257351310.html
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?geocode=CXhKQuXzbFSTFVhpkgIdo3Rg-ymdnouDf7XWiTHB89GeHXMyVg&q=office&f=l&sll=43.149761,-77.564603&sspn=0.000959,0.001725&ie=UTF8&radius=0.04&rq=1&ev=zi&hq=office&hnear=&ll=43.149671,-77.564472&spn=0,359.998275&z=19&layer=c&cbll=43.149645,-77.56426&panoid=vs1e-Ik9dpMuidJqWSw_rQ&cbp=12,333.54,,0,7.52 map]

=== 320 Griffith St ===
* 320 Griffith St. Rochester, NY
** [http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.gentoo:en-US:official&hs=uq2&resnum=0&q=320%20Griffith%20Ave&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl Google map location ]
* 3000 sq ft
* $1500 a month
* $200 - 300 utilities
* split level setup, so 2.5ish floors
* shag + high work carpeting. May be able to drop
* office rooms for meeting
* includes basement w/ kitchenette
* Large parking area
* at current value, about $100 per member per month if assuming 18 active members

= General Ideas =
* barns near West Henrietta Rd. and Scottsville
* mobile hacker bus - take a care or bus and bring the hackerspace to you
* building made out of shipping containers (EDIT)
* [http://rocwiki.org/55_Railroad_Street Railroad55]
* warehouses

Name

2009-11-07T18:54:45Z

Cmd3187: A few other ideas

Page dedicated to discussing the name of the group. Please put the name and what it represents.

* Rochester Hackerspace - had to start some where
* ROC|Hack - happens to be the name of this domain name
* Whitenoise - maybe with (a hackerspace) appended.
* North Coast Hackerspace - like the "north coast" idea.
* Hackers Of Rochester (HOR) House
* Rochester Maker Lab or Makerworks - just like the term 'maker'
* /dev/hack/roc
* RocGuild
* SIGRHS - SInGular Rochester HackerSpace

Name

2009-11-07T17:42:09Z

Cmd3187: Something like a dev inode

Ideas

2009-11-07T03:30:47Z

Cmd3187: /* Classes */ spelling change

This page can be anything. Please don't delete other peoples ideas and use the discussion tab at the top.

== Structure ==
How the hackerspace is managed
* Form an LLC to hold money
* Establish a bank account
* Become a 501c3 non profit educational organization
** Costs ($300)[http://www.hurwitassociates.com/l_s_initial_ny.php 1]
* decide on officers and start paperwork
* Decide on dues
** All same price $$
* Decide whether to create a holding company for dues prior to 501(c)(3) completion
* Gather focus groups (e.g. home brewing, print screeners, photographers, network security) see classes

== Membership Benefits ==
* local discounts
** Goldcrest Electronics
* 24x7 access to space
* secret handshake
* free or discounted admission to special events and classes
* colo space
* very high speed internet
** Netsville
** Timewarner

== Events ==
* Weekly open house
* Flash mobs
* Computer repair clinic
* LAN parties
* Parts swap
* Group partnerships
** Rochester 2600
** Rochester Hackers
** Make Club
** OWASP
* Geeky art exhibitions and gallery
* Bike rides
* Trips to nearby hackerspaces
* Rake leaves
* Kids robotic group
* Bike repair
* Computer repair
* We sponsor events

== Classes ==
* Python
* Soldering
* Arduino
* Bookbinding? (Brian B. knows a bit about this)
* 3d printing, CNC routing, Pen plotter tinkering
* Screen Printing
* Homebrewing (beer)?
* Bike repair and modding ([http://www.ladyada.net/make/spokepov/ Spoke POV] kits, DIY headlamps)
* DIY Instruments (cigar box ukulele, [http://www.vimeo.com/3913619 diy piezo pickups], theremins)
* Photography (controlling dSLRs via computers, writing scripts for [http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK CHDK] (alternate firmware for many point and shoot digicams))
* Consumer router "hacking" (dd-wrt or tomato firmware flashing, how to optimize settings for your bittorrenting pleasure)
* Programming in [http://processing.org/ Processing], and interfacing with the Arduino
* Welding
* Amateur radio related topics
* Perl
*Network Security/Forensics
*Visual Data Analysis [http://secviz.org Secviz.org]
*Linux (maybe partner with the Linux User Group of Rochester (LUGOR)
*Learning about home renovation projects

== Technological Needs ==
* soldering irons
* breadboards
* projector
* servers
* rack
* monitors
* computers and computer accessories
* bittorrent tracker
* SILC/IRC server
* workbench w/ power strips and good lighting
* Reprap (more of a want than a need)
* Laser Cutter (more of a lust...)
* TF2/LFD/LFD2 Server? (Def more of a lust)
* tools

== Non-technological Needs ==
* grill
* beer
* dark room
* lockers, or other (secure) storage spaces
* utility sink
* bike parking
* crash pad for powernaps
* robotic pet for artificial companionship
* fume hood

== Projects ==
* I saw this high speed camera hack on wired science. It think this could be a cool project that wont take too long. There are detailed [http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/story/68-high_speed_photos.html instructions on how to do this hack].
* [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/bristlebot Bristle Bots]
* [http://graffitiresearchlab.com/?page_id=6 Throwies]
* [http://www.hactivist.com/flashpoint/ Flashpoint Cameras] - project a message on a wall for cheap
* [http://www.waveprotocol.org/ Google Wave Server] - Openfire based?
* Xen Cluster
** [http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/virtualization/index.htm Oracle VM]
** [http://www.convirture.com/ ConVirt]
* Kegerator - With a notification system for temp or something like that. Maybe via Twitter

Ideas

2009-11-07T03:28:24Z

Cmd3187: /* Projects */

This page can be anything. Please don't delete other peoples ideas and use the discussion tab at the top.

== Structure ==
How the hackerspace is managed
* Form an LLC to hold money
* Establish a bank account
* Become a 501c3 non profit educational organization
** Costs ($300)[http://www.hurwitassociates.com/l_s_initial_ny.php 1]
* decide on officers and start paperwork
* Decide on dues
** All same price $$
* Decide whether to create a holding company for dues prior to 501(c)(3) completion
* Gather focus groups (e.g. home brewing, print screeners, photographers, network security) see classes

== Membership Benefits ==
* local discounts
** Goldcrest Electronics
* 24x7 access to space
* secret handshake
* free or discounted admission to special events and classes
* colo space
* very high speed internet
** Netsville
** Timewarner

== Events ==
* Weekly open house
* Flash mobs
* Computer repair clinic
* LAN parties
* Parts swap
* Group partnerships
** Rochester 2600
** Rochester Hackers
** Make Club
** OWASP
* Geeky art exhibitions and gallery
* Bike rides
* Trips to nearby hackerspaces
* Rake leaves
* Kids robotic group
* Bike repair
* Computer repair
* We sponsor events

== Classes ==
* Python
* Soldering
* Arduino
* Bookbinding? (Brian B. knows a bit about this)
* 3d printing, CNC routing, Pen plotter tinkering
* Screen Printing
* Homebrewing (beer)?
* Bike repair and modding ([http://www.ladyada.net/make/spokepov/ Spoke POV] kits, DIY headlamps)
* DIY Instruments (cigar box ukulele, [http://www.vimeo.com/3913619 diy piezo pickups], theremins)
* Photography (controlling dSLRs via computers, writing scripts for [http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK CHDK] (alternate firmware for many point and shoot digicams))
* Consumer router "hacking" (dd-wrt or tomato firmware flashing, how to optimize settings for your bittorrenting pleasure)
* Programming in [http://processing.org/ Processing], and interfacing with the Arduino
* Welding
* Amateur radio related topics
* Perl
*Network Security/Forensics
*Visual Data Analysis [http://secviz.org Secviz.org]
*Linix (maybe partner with the Linux User Group of Rochester (LUGOR)
*Learning about home renovation projects

== Technological Needs ==
* soldering irons
* breadboards
* projector
* servers
* rack
* monitors
* computers and computer accessories
* bittorrent tracker
* SILC/IRC server
* workbench w/ power strips and good lighting
* Reprap (more of a want than a need)
* Laser Cutter (more of a lust...)
* TF2/LFD/LFD2 Server? (Def more of a lust)
* tools

== Non-technological Needs ==
* grill
* beer
* dark room
* lockers, or other (secure) storage spaces
* utility sink
* bike parking
* crash pad for powernaps
* robotic pet for artificial companionship
* fume hood

== Projects ==
* I saw this high speed camera hack on wired science. It think this could be a cool project that wont take too long. There are detailed [http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/story/68-high_speed_photos.html instructions on how to do this hack].
* [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/bristlebot Bristle Bots]
* [http://graffitiresearchlab.com/?page_id=6 Throwies]
* [http://www.hactivist.com/flashpoint/ Flashpoint Cameras] - project a message on a wall for cheap
* [http://www.waveprotocol.org/ Google Wave Server] - Openfire based?
* Xen Cluster
** [http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/virtualization/index.htm Oracle VM]
** [http://www.convirture.com/ ConVirt]
* Kegerator - With a notification system for temp or something like that. Maybe via Twitter

Resources

2009-11-07T03:04:03Z

Cmd3187:

== Servers ==
* 2x 2650 Dell Poweredge Dual Xeon blade servers
* old Cisco gigantic switch
* quad core sun box
* 2 GHz workstation w/ 2 GB of RAM. need to add in a drive, probably a 100 or 80 GB for now.

== Tools ==
* Rubbermaid work desk. Should not be used near hot things, its actually maid out of plastic

== Crafts ==

== Services ==

Resources

2009-11-07T03:00:07Z

Cmd3187: added to the list

User:Cmd3187

2009-11-07T02:57:13Z

Cmd3187: missed a end paren

= Carmen De Vito =
I am a currently unemployed Systems Administrator with experience with managing mixed Linux/Windows environments. Also can program, and do a bit of soldering, so thought that a hacker-space might be a nice place to work on all of those skills together.

== Skills ==
* Programming: PHP, Java, Perl, Python, C#, C++, C, Bash, JavaScript, etc.
* Systems Administration (Windows/Linux)
* Phone Administration (VoIP)
* Network Administration (Cisco & Juniper)

== Interests ==
* Audio (Audiophile)
* Collaborative Software - IM, Google Wave, Wikis, etc
* Databases - MySQL and Oracle

User:Cmd3187

2009-11-07T02:56:51Z

Cmd3187: Created page with '= Carmen De Vito = I am a currently unemployed Systems Administrator with experience with managing mixed Linux/Windows environments. Also can program, and do a bit of soldering, …'

= Carmen De Vito =
I am a currently unemployed Systems Administrator with experience with managing mixed Linux/Windows environments. Also can program, and do a bit of soldering, so thought that a hacker-space might be a nice place to work on all of those skills together.

== Skills ==
* Programming: PHP, Java, Perl, Python, C#, C++, C, Bash, JavaScript, etc.
* Systems Administration (Windows/Linux
* Phone Administration (VoIP)
* Network Administration (Cisco & Juniper)

== Interests ==
* Audio (Audiophile)
* Collaborative Software - IM, Google Wave, Wikis, etc
* Databases - MySQL and Oracle

Talk:Ideas

2009-11-05T17:08:26Z

Cmd3187: Added homebrewing question

= Homebrewing Question =
Does this mean homebrewing as in beer, or homebrewing as in app? -[[User:Cmd3187|Cmd3187]] 17:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Name

2009-10-31T05:08:30Z

Cmd3187: Minor cleanup

Promotion

2009-10-31T04:51:45Z

Cmd3187: /* Social Networking */ Set ownership of the LinkedIn group to cmd3187 (Me)

== Flyers ==
* Jimmi posted a bunch of flyers around RIT campus
*

== Colleges ==
* University of Rochester
** (fill in)
* Nazareth
** (fill in)
* MCC
** (fill in)
* RIT
** GCCIS - 20 flyers
** Computer Science House
** Printers
* Roberts Weselyn
** (fill in)

== Promotional Ideas ==
*

== Social Networking ==
Please put the site and who is managign it
* [http://www.meetup.com/Rochester-Hackerspace Meetup.com] - antitree
* Facebook - needed
* Identicia - needed
* [http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2443347&trk=anet_ug_hm&goback=.anh_2443347 LinkedIn] - cmd3187
* [http://www.twitter.com/rochesterhackerspace Twitter] - antitree

== Friends ==
* Rochester Hackers
* Buffalolabs
* [http://www.thinkhaus.org Think|Haus]
* [http://www.hacklab.to Hacklab.TO]
* CJP??